I was joined on #MWL by Emily Freitag, CEO of Instruction Partners. We talk about the chapters ahead for schools and the stress test it will be for leaders, with a global view of how industry and schools are interconnected.

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MW
what's up
00:17
what's up welcome back another episode
00:19
of Marcus Whitney live it's Wednesday
00:21
and I took a break I took a break...
00:26
blackout Tuesday I needed a break... but
00:29
happy to be back and I've been looking
00:32
forward to this show for a while... I have
00:35
a really good friend and I think it's
00:39
fair to say colleague I'm on her board, a
00:43
very good friend and a colleague who has
00:46
taught me a ton about the state of
00:51
education in this country the way the
00:52
education works and just how far we have
00:55
to go to actually fulfill the promise
00:58
that we have to our students and she is
01:03
just one of the most caring people I
01:05
know
01:05
please meet CEO and co-founder of
01:08
instruction partners Emily Freitag. Emily
01:11
what's up?

EF
hello hi Marcus I'm so glad to
01:15
be here thank you for having me on your
01:17
show and thank you for being just an
01:18
incredible inspiration to me on a daily
01:21
basis I'm really glad to be with you

MW
I
01:25
know how busy you are you have a
01:28
fantastic team around the country that
01:30
is serving over 100 school systems and
01:34
you know I know some of them are seven
01:37
eight nine ten weeks away from whatever
01:40
the new normal of school is going to
01:43
look like, and you know I it's funny...
01:47
we've been working together on this
01:51
project -you asked me to be on your board
01:52
were you up a year before you asked me
01:54
to be on your board?-

EF
yeah yeah three
01:57
years ago

MW
yeah okay so you you were up
01:59
and running for for three years and... I
02:02
came in and you had to get a really
02:05
great board already assembled incredible
02:08
educators and leaders in this space from
02:10
around the country had just started to
02:13
kind of
02:14
get some traction and … to think about
02:15
how fast you've grown this organization
02:17
you and your incredible team have grown
02:18
this organization from that time to now...
02:21
but none of that feels like anything
02:25
compared to the last 90 days... right and
02:29
in fact, a text conversation between you
02:32
and I also almost feels like the
02:36
defining moment for me when I knew okay
02:39
it's time to switch my mind state and
02:43
prepare to do everything differently and...
02:46
you sent me a text and basically said
02:49
when would you start designing scenarios
02:52
for schools post COVID 19 and my
02:55
response was probably right about now...
02:59
and it's been you know that was sort of
03:02
the starter pistol right I I'm mark
03:06
before-and-after from our conversations
03:09
about COVID and and I think that was
03:11
like mid-february yeah maybe he a little
03:16
bit like in the February 20th timeline...
03:19
but it was it was and everything changed

MW
03:23
yeah so Emily I want to give you an
03:25
opportunity to share with the audience a
03:27
bit about instruction partners... you know
03:30
what your what the purpose the the
03:32
theory of change is and then we'll we'll
03:34
jump right in because there's a ton
03:35
going on in education in America right
03:37
now that I want to make sure we cover

EF
03:38
yep so instruction partners is a
03:44
organization a team of people that work
03:47
with school system leaders and
03:51
Increasingly state leaders and with
03:54
school principals and we help them put
03:56
in place conditions to strengthen
03:59
teaching and to improve learning for
04:01
kids... and this is something that leaders
04:04
want help with they want to serve their
04:07
kids well, they want to support their
04:09
teachers well, and in many cases they're
04:12
looking for more information about “what
04:15
are my options” and “how do I really do
04:17
this, how do I do this work well” and we
04:21
seek to be their partner in in that
04:23
quest and in that journey

MW
awesome and
04:26
and why
04:27
why do why do school systems need that
04:32
help?
04:32
this was illuminating for me when I
04:34
first joined it was kind of like why do
04:35
they why do they need that help what's
04:37
the gap that that instruction partners
04:40
is filling right now?

EF
yeah so I think
04:44
it's it's worth starting in a very
04:46
global place about schools, and schools
04:50
are asked to be many many many things...
04:53
and I think we're seeing in this time of
04:57
disrupted schooling how much we rely on
05:00
schools for things we might have even
05:01
took for granted and just kind of
05:03
assumed in their function that now we're
05:06
like “oh my gosh childcare … please” … and I
05:11
think the multiplicity of functions
05:14
schools are asked to perform makes it
05:17
very hard to then pattern what a leader
05:20
of a school is or needs to be or the
05:23
skill set they need to bring to that job...
05:25
and schools are political right schools
05:28
in many places school leaders are
05:32
elected if not appointed by elected
05:35
boards, and so that brings a whole other
05:37
set of considerations into the selection
05:40
support of leaders... so the other truth is
05:43
like education is really hard it's
05:45
really hard to help a lot of kids with
05:48
different needs, learn a lot of different
05:50
things, and anyone's personal experience
05:54
as an educator will will have gaps in
05:58
the charge when you're asked to then
05:59
lead a whole school in a whole system...
06:02
there are some just systemic problems in
06:06
the training, preparation, and support for
06:10
teachers and leaders and and that's you
06:13
know that is worth meaning and that is
06:16
worthy of a great deal of our Civic
06:19
attention because, if we count on schools
06:21
we need to make sure that we're
06:22
equipping leaders to to deliver... however
06:28
former to this job or to starting
06:31
instruction partners... I was being the
06:33
assistant commissioner for curriculum
06:35
and instruction for the state of
06:36
Tennessee and just surrounded by
06:40
incredible
06:41
educators and I really be up we just
06:53
lost Emily there

Part 2 Youtube Episode Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x5bABXeE0o

00:00
so back to our first text message you
00:02
know i i think
00:03
um when the idea of
00:07
um a pandemic really just seizing our
00:10
country
00:11
um became like a very real possibility
00:15
i was i was just initially struck by oh
00:17
my gosh schools
00:18
are this is just going to be an
00:20
incredible stress test for schools
00:22
and it has been um and you know i think
00:26
schools are
00:27
asked to reimagine themselves as a
00:29
service not a place...
00:30
at some level right now and
00:34
with every pattern of how we think about
00:37
schools
00:38
actually really built on the idea of
00:41
place
00:42
um and so
00:45
that the idea of distance learning
00:48
itself
00:48
incredibly challenging um... as we look to
00:51
the coming school year
00:53
if possible it's actually more
00:55
challenging than that, because we're
00:56
going to have
00:58
some in person some at home -so you're
01:01
going to have distance and in person at
01:02
the same time-
01:04
and you're going to have a kind of
01:06
hybrid context where you're trying to do
01:08
both in different ways and different
01:09
dosages for different kids… there
01:11
is simply not going to be a popular way
01:13
to do school
01:14
in the coming year ...um and so we're
01:17
seeing schools grapple with their
01:18
choices and
01:20
schedules staffing assignment
01:22
instructional programs kind of like
01:23
rethinking
01:24
everything top to bottom in a scenario
01:27
based like vuca
01:30
context right volatile uncertain complex
01:33
and ambiguous...
01:36
i want to layer on top of that schools
01:40
right now are also trying to keep
01:43
their kids safe and in the context of
01:46
the
01:46
this week's events, um i you know i think
01:50
there's an important um connection
01:54
between responding to covid and
01:56
responding to racism
01:58
and responding to -and merging-
02:02
those conversations feels really really
02:05
important right now
02:07
because it is about safety... um safety
02:10
from a disease and safety from
02:14
the threats of racism safety in
02:16
breathing...
02:18
and schools i think have to rise to both
02:21
of those concurrently
02:23
um not separately not distinctly but
02:26
like
02:26
it is in the covid context that schools
02:29
need to
02:30
um become more anti-racist than they
02:33
have ever been before...
02:34
and so i think that's an important
02:36
dynamic in the conversation
02:38
as well

MW
so so part of how um
02:41
and and we will just acknowledge before
02:43
i say what i'm about to say
02:45
that there is tremendous work to do
02:49
in in in terms of being anti-racist
02:52
the the education system … right there's
02:54
tremendous work to do...
02:56
but when you talk about safety just just
02:58
for a second just talking about keeping
03:00
a child safe,
03:01
part of the the system that was in place
03:05
to do that
03:06
was what you said place … right bring all
03:09
the kids into this building
03:11
and at least then you know you know you
03:15
you designate that place a school zone,
03:17
you
03:18
you try to protect that space in a
03:20
certain way with a certain context some
03:22
school leaders do a better job than
03:23
other school leaders but
03:25
you know the point just being when you
03:27
have place, you have a certain
03:29
uh ability to control the vectors
03:32
right of access to a child … now
03:36
we're just talking about you know the
03:38
vuca-ness of this the uncertainty
03:40
piece of this, i'm hearing school leaders
03:43
talking about
03:44
“we need to prepare for digital access
03:47
and digital connectivity
03:48
and devices” because hey we might not be
03:51
back in that place...
03:53
right... what is the current state of
03:55
conversations around
03:56
safety safety specifically as it
04:00
pertains to racism
04:02
for these students when you don't have
04:04
place
04:05
to to keep them safe?... how how do schools
04:08
step
04:08
in to that and and also, what
04:12
responsibility does the broader
04:13
community at what point have we put
04:15
too much on schools? right
04:18
to keep these children safe when we know
04:20
they no longer have
04:22
the ability to keep all the children in
04:24
a single place?

EF
04:28
i think the accountability conversation
04:30
is a really interesting one because
04:31
um at the same time i think schools
04:35
can and need to be more accountable than
04:37
ever because
04:39
the the risks are so significant... and
04:43
um i was reading a study last week
04:47
that looked at 1916 polio
04:50
outbreak in america and the 1980s
04:52
argentina teacher strikes and the
04:55
2011 thailand flooding all of which
04:58
led to significant disrupted schooling,
05:01
and the negative impact for student
05:04
learning
05:05
of those three events um -most
05:08
significant for young children-
05:10
um but significant for all kids, could
05:13
was traced not only to the kids who
05:16
experienced the interrupted schooling
05:17
but to their children...
05:19
we are at risk of multi-generational
05:22
setback um
05:24
and i don't see a way to counter that
05:26
without
05:27
some high degree of accountability like
05:30
some
05:31
just whether it's easy or not
05:34
whether i'm ready for it or not i accept
05:37
accountability
05:38
that i will ensure that this group of
05:40
students is,
05:43
that history is not destiny and we will
05:45
find a way...
05:46
and yet i think the schools are also
05:50
entirely in the right and saying we have
05:53
not at all been prepared for this moment,
05:56
no one has...
05:57
um so that's the challenge of leadership
05:59
right now
06:00
period in any sector in any context
06:03
right...
06:04
back to your question about safety um
06:08
there too i mean i think educators sign
06:11
up for a spiritual
06:12
charge of caring for children and that
06:15
and
06:15
it's like accountability to that in the
06:18
safety
06:19
context that i do think is motivating
06:22
really important
06:23
heroic work to locate all children,
06:27
check in with all children, we know
06:31
domestic violence is up, we know
06:34
um mental health is stressed especially
06:36
among adolescents right... like these are
06:39
um risks we can know and try to manage
06:42
against
06:44
connecting it to racism i think that um
06:49
school is the safe place for many many
06:52
kids,
06:53
it is also a dangerous place for
06:57
some children, and and for identity
07:00
formation,
07:01
i think a lot about that right now and
07:04
i think we all are um
07:08
wounded and bolstered by our experiences
07:12
with educators
07:13
in our own identity and trajectory, and i
07:16
think we're at
07:16
great risk of that getting exacerbated
07:19
right now... so if kids come back
07:21
for example from extended disruption the
07:23
first thing that happens is they're
07:25
given a test
07:26
and they're told okay you're you're off
07:29
track...
07:30
you know i think that does that can
07:34
do really unintended damage to the
07:36
psyche
07:37
of that child for the long term, and yet
07:40
we also have to have data to
07:42
make the right choices and information...
07:44
so
07:45
um let alone the
07:50
interactive dynamics that um
07:53
take place in school and around school
07:56
and how racism factors into those, um
08:00
i'm not giving you answers right now i'm
08:01
just pointing out all the dimensions
08:03
that make it hard

MW
yeah you're talking
08:05
you're you're talking about the
08:07
conversations you're having with school
08:08
leaders
08:09
around the country right now right

EF
yes
08:12

MW
okay
08:12
so so emily this is a live show um and
08:16
uh
08:17
a guy who i know uh his name is rock
08:20
he has a very important position um
08:24
in dc which is very much right now the
08:26
center
08:27
of um of a lot of what's going on
08:31
uh and and and works in education
08:35
has from what i know about rock has has
08:38
broadly dedicated his life to
08:41
equity for specifically african-american
08:43
children um is asking
08:45
hard questions right now on the on the
08:47
linkedin feed so i just want to
08:49
i want to bring some of those up because
08:50
i know -i'm certain-
08:52
you know malika anderson who should your
08:54
you know
08:55
is your you know your chief product
08:57
officer is you know is
08:58
is is also bringing these questions to
09:01
the forefront … so i'm gonna i'm gonna
09:03
you know just bring in some of these
09:05
some of these things for us to talk
09:06
About…

09:21
hey okay you're back i'm back sorry
09:25
no worries look dude it's it's like it's
09:27
internet man
09:28
you know it is what it is okay so back
09:30
to back to rock stuff okay
09:32
so

Part 3 Youtube Episode Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwTM8yr50QM

MW
00:00
but that that was not without
00:02
significant fight right from from an
00:06
individual so like III made it through...
00:08
but it was clear like there was there
00:11
was a likely that had someone not fought
00:13
for me although back then in my life
00:15
right... Who I am today and everything that
00:19
I'm able to do would be very very
00:22
different … so so I can go I can trace
00:24
back to a moment where I was hardly even
00:26
conscious of my life and say there was
00:30
an experience what that was
00:33
anti-black that that I experienced that
00:36
had I not had an advocate, I you know my
00:39
life would have turned out very very
00:40
differently... and there were there were
00:41
certainly many many other points but you
00:42
know my mother was a consistent advocate
00:44
for me right yeah we you know we we know
00:47
that for a variety of reasons not every
00:49
black child in America has has an
00:53
advocate right that can that can that
00:56
has an advocate that can effect change
00:59
on their behalf always... right yes that
01:01
that's not always present... like what can
01:03
you say about what can you say about
01:08
what you are seeing there like like
01:11
right now … like this this is the moment
01:13
for this is the moment right first day
01:15
this is the moment for us to have this
01:16
have this conversation what can you say
01:18
about the systemic -every bit of
01:23
America's institution has has has some
01:26
anti blackness in it so I'm I'm thankful
01:28
for rock for sort of calling on that-
01:31
right what can you say about that in
01:33
this moment like like now that we're all
01:35
having this conversation,
01:37
yeah you're you know what are the
01:39
conversations like inside of instruction
01:41
Partners around around this?

EF
yes so rock
01:46
thank you for bringing this up I love DC,
01:49
I lived there for many years it is often
01:51
the pond of a broader politics and I am
01:54
feeling for DC so deeply right now, and I
01:59
think it's the the most important
02:01
conversation we need to be having today
02:02
I thank you for sharing your story
02:04
Marcus as well...
02:06
schools are institutions of racism. they
02:09
are. period. how
02:13
and it is not a conversation that
02:17
schools have easily 86% of educators are
02:23
white women
02:25
so the fragility that we know white
02:27
educators -well white people- have around
02:31
conversations of race but this become
02:35
infect school honestly and you've
02:40
asked me pointedly what are the
02:41
conversations happening at instruction
02:43
partners, and we are having conversations
02:48
about rethinking everything about
02:50
schools right now... and in some ways I
02:53
think the COVID context is so disruptive
02:59
to schools that it allows for this
03:03
moment to be equal to the disruption
03:05
that is needed to confront the legacy of
03:09
slavery that is living in schools in a
03:12
different kind of way … so I think it is
03:15
just so important that we have these
03:18
conversations right now in education, and
03:23
the story you described Marcus for
03:26
yourself is like it is every day in
03:30
schools in America... and it has been for a
03:34
long time and it is current civic events
03:40
make it center stage, but we have so much
03:43
to undo

MW
lost Emily again we're gonna
03:53
we're gonna just hang in there until we
03:55
get to the end of this conversation and
03:59
I'll just have to do editing on the back
04:02
end okay sorry
04:05
no worries no worries just repeat what
04:08
you just said okay where did I cut out
04:11
yeah you go back to talking about the go
04:16
back to talking about the disruption
04:18
that kovat is allowing to actually
04:21
tackle what's what's needed in this
04:23
moment right

EF
04:25
okay so the the degree to which I think
04:28
schools are racist institutions and
04:34
the legacy of slavery lives in

Part 4 Youtube Episode Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZURqBZxwpPc

MW
00:00
they're in their family you know what I
00:01
mean and and and all of us still have
00:04
our jobs in this moment like you know
00:06
need like so if I'm if I'm looking for
00:08
what's the consistent thread there,
00:09
that's that's the thing... yeah the the the
00:14
sometimes it's almost in spite of the
00:16
school …

EF
right yeah yeah yeah and and
00:19
school school-parent relationships are
00:22
worthy of its own discussion because
00:26
some know how to be advocate some want
00:29
to be advocates but don't know how to be
00:30
advocates and the this has changed the
00:35
relationship between schools and
00:37
families because families are more
00:39
explicitly the conduit to schooling
00:42
right now... I think that is also something
00:45
that has always been true at some level,
00:48
families have always played a seismic
00:50
role and schools haven't necessarily
00:51
organized to that role in the way they
00:54
have to right now, and I hope that is
00:57
part of what we can take into a new
01:00
normal that is forever changed

MW
so it is
01:05
it is so early in this process like I
01:08
know it's it's it's funny it's like -for
01:13
black people this is our whole life so
01:14
this is not that different- right … I mean
01:16
you know I would say if anything is
01:18
different the openness of this
01:19
conversation that we're having in
01:20
America is probably the one thing that
01:22
feels different to us, but the you know
01:24
the the trauma is that's our lives... right
01:28
our lives are full of this trauma okay...
01:30
so with with that, it's it hasn't been
01:35
that long but I am curious as to whether
01:38
or not school leaders have initiated
01:41
conversations with you about this topic...
01:42
right and and even asking questions
01:46
about what are we tell the kids you know
01:48
does this even affect the curriculum?
01:50
right this is one of the big things I've
01:52
just sort of noticed is like, wow... we
01:56
didn't look here's the deal like we
01:59
didn't even give we didn't even give
02:04
white America -specifically like
02:07
Millennials and Gen X- like a chance
02:12
to be a part of the solution because you
02:14
guys were so improperly educated about
02:17
the truth... you know what I mean like you
02:19
you had to really try or really be lucky
02:22
to have the right parents or like the
02:25
number of white people I've talked to in
02:27
the last 72 hours who don't know basic
02:30
stuff, it's like either you were
02:33
willfully ignorant or like literally you
02:35
just like there was just miseducation...
02:38
so right so isn't there an aspect of
02:41
like re-looking at the curriculum? when
02:43
you talk about this is the opportunity
02:45
to rethink everything right can we
02:48
continue to teach the same things is
02:50
that like can we do that?

EF
right yeah I I
02:55
think that is that is on the table like
02:57
we have to have that conversation for
03:00
for I went to an almost exclusively
03:03
white school, and I did not read a single
03:06
author of color growing up in that white
03:08
school and community -let alone have any
03:12
explicit instruction on what whiteness
03:19
meant in until I was in past college
03:23
actually-... so there's a there's a
03:27
curriculum rethink, there's an anti
03:29
racism curriculum rethink that the whole
03:32
country needs, -particularly those who
03:35
benefit from the privilege of whiteness-...
03:38
you're also talking though and you and I
03:41
have talked about like other things that
03:43
need to be taught right now the internet,
03:46
the role of Technology in our country
03:48
right now has changed how should that
03:50
affect the curriculum of schools? it
03:52
should yeah um does that mean reading is
03:56
not important or no does that mean maths
03:59
not important of course not like if you
04:01
if you can't read they'll beat you if
04:02
you can't count they'll cheat you
04:04
remains right but there's so much more
04:08
we need to be thinking about
04:10
systemically... our schools asking for it
04:14
are we talking about that we are talking
04:16
about it are they like “okay here we go
04:19
tell me what to do what's the four-point
04:21
plan?”... no... but I don't think there's an
04:24
Amir
04:25
and that has watched the George Floyd
04:27
video of a public lynching that isn't
04:30
feeling embarrassment and activation
04:34
right now … and I think schools very much
04:38
are feeling that too

MW
yeah there's a lot
04:41
going on I didn't even expect this
04:44
conversation to sort of be as as intense
04:47
as as it is, but I just one things I
04:50
appreciate about you is you don't shy
04:54
away from hard conversations and I think
04:57
that's why you're able to make a lot of
04:58
progress, and I think the work that you
05:04
and the team at instruction partners are
05:06
doing is is important and primarily
05:10
because of your collective willingness
05:13
to evolve to change to grow to respond
05:15
to take new information and to look in
05:21
the mirror and say “did we get it right?”
05:23
you know and if we didn't will we will
05:27
we do something differently right and
05:29
that's all of us right like this is this
05:31
is that moment this is that moment we're
05:33
all gonna talk , and I'm just I'm telling
05:36
myself every moment and I'm telling
05:38
everybody who I'm talking to
05:39
don't try to jump to the answer you know...
05:42
if there's one thing I've learned in the
05:45
the years I've been in in therapy, is
05:47
like the first step to reconciliation is
05:54
seeing the other person... really seeing
05:57
the other person and validating their
05:59
experience .. you know I I think if you
06:03
really get down to the to the bottom of
06:05
it the murders sting... that you know the
06:09
economic injustice stings the criminal
06:12
justice the the educational inequity all
06:14
of that stings... but the thing if you're
06:17
black in America you have to live with
06:19
every second is the denial of the truth...
06:25
the invalidation of what happened to you
06:29
mm-hmm
06:31
right and

EF
The spiritual crisis

MW
yes yes
06:35
that's the that's that to me that's the
06:38
hardest part
06:39
and so these really hard conversations
06:44
are giving us a path to being seen, and I
06:51
think you know ultimately will help us
06:56
to figure out how to solve whatever this
07:01
problem however you would describe this
07:03
problem you know I'm just one person and
07:05
I'm just sharing my experiences right, I
07:07
don't I don't I don't have answers you
07:08
know what I mean I don't have answers...
07:09
but but I do have my experiences you
07:12
know yeah …

EF
yeah well I appreciate the
07:14
compliment about having hard
07:16
conversations I need to say I I am NOT a
07:21
confident or clear leader right now and
07:24
it is only by grace of my team that I
07:27
feel like we are centering around the
07:29
right conversations because it is a hard
07:34
time to leave for everyone …. and I I do
07:38
think kind of “know better, do better” is
07:42
the commitment I've made to them and I
07:44
know that schools are trying to make to
07:46
students and families and I I do think
07:51
it is actually only in that community
07:53
that we will find answers... and you're an
07:59
important part of that for me by the way
08:00
Marcus, a very important part so thank
08:02
you for being a part of my my world

EF
yeah
08:06
yeah likewise and thank you for fighting
08:08
through the Wi-Fi you know I know it's
08:10
the internet... but but we but we made it
08:12
through we made it through we made it to
08:14
the other side I know you have work to
08:16
get back to I got a book to work on
08:18
launching here in a second but um look
08:21
thank you again for for always being
08:25
willing to have the hard conversation
08:26
and for the work that you and this is
08:28
also thanks to your incredible team and
08:31
just just keep working

EF
thank you… do the
08:35
work
08:35

MF
yeah do the work do the work so if you
08:38
want to learn more about instruction
08:40
partners which I definitely would invite
08:43
you to do you can follow Emily on
08:45
Twitter eebee Freitag and also they've
08:48
got a YouTube channel they've been
08:49
really putting out some some great
08:51
interviews on
08:52
think it's a rethinking intervention is
08:54
the series so you can just go on YouTube
08:56
you can search for instruction partners
08:58
the channel will come up you can find
08:59
all the videos there and instruction
09:01
partners org they they were and I think
09:05
are still building out this incredible
09:07
covert 19 resource hub full of
09:09
incredible free grab-and-go resources
09:12
for educators school leaders so if you
09:14
hadn't heard of it go to the website
09:15
just go check out the stuff that they're
09:17
doing and then for me I announced on
09:21
Monday that the book I've been working
09:22
on for five years is finally coming live
09:24
on June 30th no there's no pre-order
09:27
everyone's just gonna buy it on that day
09:28
that's what I need I need to support me
09:30
to buy it on that day not before but but
09:33
it is coming and it is just my
09:36
contribution to try to make things
09:37
better all about the important role of
09:41
entrepreneurship how that has been left
09:43
out quite frankly of the educational
09:45
system and and how important amongst all
09:49
the other things we have to fight for
09:51
economic equity is as well this show
09:54
along with other stuff that I do can be
09:56
found on my podcast Marcus Whitney's
09:57
audio universe on Apple Spotify Google I
10:00
art radio all that good stuff and always
10:02
please do follow me on social if you're
10:04
watching this you already are but why
10:05
not get me on my other channels so
10:08
that's it we fought through we got
10:10
through we got to the end everybody out
10:13
there take care of yourself seriously
10:14
you know this is a marathon not a sprint
10:18
you know we we do have to push for
10:24
justice we cannot let gaslighting and
10:26
false narratives come up right now and
10:29
change the conversation we have a moment
10:32
we have some momentum we have to keep
10:33
doing it this is not even for us this is
10:35
for our children we we have to we have
10:39
to keep the pressure on and at the same
10:42
time you have to take care of yourself
10:43
you cannot burn out this thing will be
10:45
going for a very very very very very
10:47
long time you're talking about hundreds
10:49
of years of nonsense that has not been
10:54
worked out so we we're gonna it's going
10:56
to take us some time to work it out and
10:58
be kind to yourself take care of
11:01
yourself give yourself breaths fresh air
11:02
sunshine good food good sleep and I
11:06
see you next time here on Marcus Whitney
11:08
live let's build a new normal

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