Catching up with my man Joshua Mundy on his new venture, Pivot Technology School: https://www.pivottechschool.com/ We are also talking about how COVID-19 and the Tornado destroying his businesses overnight has changed him as an entrepreneur.

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MW
00:31
what's up happy Tuesday hope everybody
00:32
is doing okay out there... back with
00:35
another episode of Marcus Whitney live
00:36
this is a reprise, I'm bringing back one
00:39
of my regular guests, I'm bringing back
00:44
one of my regular guests... my man my man
00:46
the legend the living legend my man
00:49
Joshua Mundy. Josh what's going on man?

JM
it
00:52
was good man how are you doing brother... I
00:54
haven't seen you working man I haven't
00:56
really bothered you any man but I have
00:58
been seeing you put in word bro and I'm
01:02
just I'm just excited to be a part of
01:04
this new market with me live series
01:07
that's incredible bro, this is dope.

MW
01:08
Thank You Man thank you. I
01:10
appreciate it it's uh it's good to be
01:12
here with you. so we we already had a
01:15
good 15 minute prep session and so we're
01:18
gonna chop it up about two things in
01:19
particular... so first we're gonna talk
01:21
about your new venture: you were working
01:24
on it when we recorded the episode of
01:27
the creative power our last fall... you
01:29
were starting to work on it alongside of
01:31
everything else and then obviously -and
01:33
we'll jump into everything that's
01:34
happened to you- but but now it seems
01:36
like a center stage you are you're just
01:38
kind of going 100 miles an hour with it
01:40
pivot tech pivot technology school let's
01:43
let's talk about it tell the audience
01:45
what pivot Tech is and then let's just
01:47
talk about how important it is in this
01:49
day in time for this new venture you've
01:50
just launched
JM
yeah so it is really when
01:55
you go back to the interview that we
01:57
were doing... and you know after we did our
02:00
interview and a lot of people hit me up
02:02
like “man you have a lot going on” and
02:04
like how are you able to manage it all
02:06
and things of that nature and I operate
02:09
how operators like a coronaviruses gonna
02:12
happen or a tomato I'm going to happen
02:14
so you know a lot of people like me how
02:16
am I going on but a tornado literally
02:19
bite me out... so If I really didn't have
02:21
pivot tech going on I really...
02:23
yo... like you know I don't even have the
02:28
formula that started business in this
02:30
type of environment, so we already have
02:31
attendant thing… So Pivot Techis a
02:34
24 week bootcamp that teaches adults
02:39
coding and data analytics. so we have to
02:42
so you've become a data analyst or web
02:45
developer, on the web side. we're going to
02:47
get into the software side, but we're
02:49
strictly on the website and we're just
02:50
trying to target individuals that are
02:53
looking to pivot their career so they
02:56
may have been a teacher a bus driver
02:58
fast-food worker whatever they may have
03:00
been in their life but they're looking
03:03
to transition. now I always tell people
03:05
that the world everything is around “take”
03:08
and if you open up your eyes and look
03:10
and see what's taking place, and now the
03:14
coronavirus taking place, everything is
03:16
technology. and if you do not have that
03:19
that that skill set under your belt,
03:22
you're in jeopardy of getting left
03:24
behind, really, because if you go into if
03:27
you go to Kroger's right now all right
03:29
every time you go in there each week
03:31
they're adding more machines they're
03:33
adding more stuff checkout machine. all
03:36
right there is a McDonald's in Nashville,
03:39
somewhere I don't know where it is,
03:41
but as robots cooking the food and
03:43
they're testing out models that robots
03:46
and things of that nature are taking
03:48
people's jobs... so now the coronavirus has
03:52
really accelerated everything. it was
03:54
going to happen eventually, but it's now
03:56
accelerated everything now people going
03:59
to be looking, you know “hey what do I
04:01
need to do next?” so we wanted to kind of
04:03
create something to get more people
04:06
engaged in technologies really just
04:08
showing them that it's possible
04:10
sometimes you know you just don't see
04:12
yourself doing the things, and you think
04:14
about coding you think about data and
04:16
you're like “man I don't have the skill
04:18
Sets,” but you actually do have a skill
04:19
set to be successful in those things...
04:21
you're on your phone every day you're on
04:23
Instagram every day you're Facebook
04:25
every day you're on Amazon every day
04:27
that's what you use that's what you
04:29
utilize, so understand now some
04:32
understand the backend of how it all
04:33
works... and then when you see that and how
04:36
we teach
04:37
it's so simple you like “yeah I could
04:39
really be doing it.” and if you live in if
04:43
you've been an as you I know your your
04:44
listeners are across the world but if
04:46
you live in Nashville, Nashville has
04:49
become two things taking health care if
04:52
you if you not a knows who feels most of
04:54
the big tech companies are coming to
04:56
Nashville because the cost of living is
04:58
cheaper than California and then all the
05:00
big care we've always been a health care
05:02
mecca but now you know all the health
05:05
care companies are still coming and
05:06
invading Nashville... so you don't have
05:09
those two skill sets you know hey you're
05:12
going to be in a position where you're
05:13
going to be looking around like “yo I
05:15
need I need to pivot ASAP

MW
my man
05:20
you everything you just said is
05:25
everything I am feeling in my gut right
05:28
now so deeply, but I personally struggle
05:33
with how to communicate it because my
05:36
background was already in technology...
05:38
right and so I'm looking out into the
05:42
world with a ton of empathy and sympathy
05:45
for how many people have been impacted
05:48
economically -right by by everything
05:51
that's going- on and feeling that I have
05:54
the privilege of having spent into the
05:57
last two decades largely in technology...
06:00
so for you, somebody who you know was
06:02
making money in service based businesses
06:04
and place-based businesses to (A) say one
06:09
of the most important things that's
06:10
allowed you to transition post you know
06:13
a disaster the tornado was a having a
06:17
portfolio of work having having
06:18
something else that was not tied to that
06:20
to that space, that's like one big thing
06:22
that I'm trying to talk to people about
06:23
the importance of diversifying across
06:26
industry, business model, and the group of
06:29
people you're working with even right
06:30
you know what I mean like like even
06:32
diversifying at that level... but then for
06:34
someone like you who didn't have like a
06:35
big background in technology to be
06:37
speaking confidently in factually about
06:41
how prominent technology is and is
06:45
definitely going to be in a post covered
06:47
nineteen world
06:48
is it's really encouraging for me man
06:52
it's really encouraging that more and
06:53
more people are going to be able to pick
06:55
up this narrative and I'm gonna be able
06:56
to you know improve their life -become
07:00
less fragile because of it- because it is
07:02
a really really free it always was a
07:04
fragile world but now we just know how
07:06
fragile it was you know what I mean now
07:09
we know now... we know it only took one
07:10
thing to kind of like knock down half
07:13
the systems that we thought were you
07:15
know so so die hard... and and the Internet
07:19
a lot of people don't understand this
07:21
man but the the the internet started
07:25
with resiliency and anti fragility in
07:29
its design with the Department of
07:31
Defense in the late 60s and the 70s... like
07:33
it was designed to to not be easily
07:37
killed, you know... and right and we've only
07:40
invested so much money
07:42
globally into it over the last four
07:45
decades right,
07:46
they now right at this point where I
07:49
mean this thing is impossible to kill. [the internet]
07:51
you know what I mean like even if we go
07:53
underground it would like we'd still be
07:55
able to access it... you know what I mean
07:57
and so I just think you are you're
08:02
you're spreading a very very important
08:03
message for people right now and there
08:05
is room there's more room for you
08:07
you know what I mean yeah... a lot of jobs
08:09
are going away but there's a whole bunch
08:11
of jobs that haven't been filled yet
08:12
this is a big skills gap right

JM
if so and
08:16
so that's my new my new saying your
08:18
skills pay the bills okay and what we're
08:21
lacking is is in skills so you know if
08:25
you look if you you know the new
08:27
buzzword is diversity and inclusion
08:28
equity and and all these things in
08:31
regards to technology and all these
08:33
things that's going on in the
08:34
marketplace right now, but we have to get
08:37
back to what it really is: we have to
08:39
have the skills... if we don't have the
08:42
skills we can't we cannot feel any of
08:44
these positions though these high-paying
08:45
positions so we have to get people
08:48
skilled enough so they can live the life
08:50
that they want to live so you know I did
08:53
not have an incredible I have incredible
08:55
foresight, so when I when I when I see
08:59
things shifting or changing or when I'm
09:02
the meetings and and that's all I hear...
09:05
for the last I've been hearing this for
09:06
the last two years yeah okay so really
09:09
pivot pivot came from the last two years
09:12
of me being involved and the Chamber of
09:14
Commerce, going to Austin Texas seeing
09:17
what's taking us taking place and really
09:19
bringing that back to Nashville and say
09:22
“hey there's a whole group of people that
09:25
do not have these skills that can
09:27
potentially get left behind”... and that's
09:29
people that look like me because you
09:30
know we developed this to get more
09:33
minorities into technology in particular
09:36
african-american people, you know, because
09:38
it's less than two percent maybe... less
09:41
than you know that they're giving me
09:43
skills and this is what's paying the
09:46
bills! you know these skills these coding
09:50
and learn how to do data and things that
09:53
they make sure you don't have to have a
09:54
four six a ten year degree no! if you
09:58
have the skills,
09:59
somebody's gonna hide you and guess what
10:02
you can do you can pay your bills right
10:03
but now we don't you know people don't
10:06
have the skill they don't think they can
10:07
do it and now they're looking around and
10:10
then the marketplace is changing... these
10:12
companies that have laid off six hundred
10:14
you know six hundred people here four
10:16
hundred people here are learning that
10:18
“hey I can do the same a job without all
10:21
these people” so they're going to be
10:23
bringing those people back so everything
10:25
is going to be technology everything is
10:27
going to be working remotely so what
10:29
skills can I use or what skills do I
10:32
have to benefit the marketplace the new
10:34
marketplace now because it's a whole new
10:36
marketplace now it's totally changed
10:38
it's never going to be the same

MW
so so
10:40
one of the things I'm interested in
10:43
-you've got a couple of cohorts live
10:44
right now- like just talk about the
10:45
different cohorts that you have

JM
so
10:48
currently we have web development going
10:50
on and just started three weeks and then
10:54
we've the data our data has been going
10:55
on for two months now… eight weeks
10:58
and then they're currently in sequel... so
11:00
they're learning sequel we we take them
11:03
through a building blocks so when people
11:06
say do I need to be proficient in these
11:09
things? no you do not have to be
11:10
proficient... what we do is when you sign
11:12
up for pivot we send you pre-work so we
11:16
get you some things that you can kind of
11:18
you know get yourself ingratiated into
11:21
the culture of technology so we'll see
11:23
you some videos to watch and all these
11:25
things and then we'll stair-step you... so
11:28
with our data cohort, they do advanced
11:30
excel for a month... okay so from advanced
11:34
Excel then we go to another block
11:37
go to another block, here we
11:38
go and then it we seamlessly put it all
11:42
together so it can all make sense okay
11:44
so we build you we don't just take you
11:47
and throw you into Python,
11:49
yeah now we build you up to build your
11:53
confidence because you're coming in
11:54
without confidence because you don't
11:57
really understand “yo I can really do
12:00
this”... so we build you up get you
12:02
confident and whip you up as well
12:05
because it's a bootcamp yeah so you're
12:06
learning everything that what people
12:08
have been learning in four years you're
12:10
learning that in 24 weeks... right so it's
12:13
gonna be tough... you know but with the
12:16
relationships that we have and we're
12:17
just trying to get people placed on jobs
12:19
and we have a really really dope
12:21
business model that I think it's gonna
12:24
really change the game

MW
12:25
awesome well if you want to talk about
12:28
that then you can talk about that but if
12:30
you're still cooking it up and you don't
12:31
want to share it yet okay okay okay

JM
12:37
yeah it's something that's gonna really
12:39
change the game... we have some some
12:42
exciting things that we have coming up
12:44
we are building a curriculum for a high
12:47
school in Nashville right now, not other
12:50
they're going to be they're going to be
12:51
utilizing pivot curriculum teaching
12:55
these kids data analytics, web
12:58
development, and they'll be able to
13:00
transition so if they want to go to
13:02
College… cool… if they don't want to go
13:04
to college, they want transition from the
13:06
high school to pivot technology, pivot
13:09
gives them the skill then place
13:11
them on a job and right out of high
13:12
school... if you're making forty five to
13:14
fifty thousand dollars, I think that's a
13:16
that's a good win for for someone

MW
look I
13:19
mean right now to have a job is is a win
13:22
to have a job is a
13:25
win... so what one of the things that I
13:27
think a lot about when
13:29
I look back at my career -my career
13:32
started in technology- that you did not
13:35
have nearly as many options for learning
13:39
as you do today. you know pivot techs weren't
13:41
around in 2000 they just weren't um
13:45
right was the importance of just
13:48
tinkering, meaning like just spending a
13:51
lot of time outside of a classroom or
13:55
user group environment just me and the
13:57
computer and the internet like screwing
14:00
around with stuff, and googling, and in
14:02
forums and and things like that... you know
14:05
are you are you finding that... that and by
14:08
the way, that I remember that being
14:10
something I had to learn culturally like
14:12
I remember initially I didn't know that
14:14
that was what it meant to really be a
14:17
developer... right... I didn't know that your
14:19
as a developer you're always learning
14:21
and you're always sort of communicated
14:23
with other developers to try to figure
14:25
out the best way to do something or just
14:26
the way to do something when it's not
14:28
even easily documented... is that something
14:31
that you're incorporating into the the
14:34
instruction or something that that
14:36
you're finding people who are coming to
14:38
this are already predisposed to kind of
14:40
tinker? like I'm just I'm just really
14:42
interested in what you're what you're
14:43
finding on that front

JM
uh so that is one
14:47
of our things that we teach our cohort,
14:50
is that you have to be a digger for
14:54
knowledge... you you're never gonna... it's
14:58
almost like you have to learn how to try
15:00
to figure out how to master it. so it's
15:02
like golf; alright in golf you had never
15:05
master golf okay you can play a million
15:08
times, Tiger Woods is mastered in such a
15:10
way but he still loses he still goes and
15:14
learns and learns and learns so you have
15:16
to be willing to learn every every
15:19
because technology changes. I mean when
15:21
we get off this live right here you're
15:23
going to find out that something has
15:24
changed with the infrastructure of zoom,
15:26
you know because they're changing. so you
15:28
have to always be a constant learner and
15:30
that's what we kind of tell them is like
15:31
yo you have to be always digging for
15:33
knowledge the information, and then
15:35
ingratiate yourself in communities, so we
15:38
have a Slack channel, we connected with
15:40
other organizations that are developed
15:42
we get
15:43
our students involved in that because
15:45
you have to learn the lingo you have to
15:46
learn the language you have to learn
15:48
that it's a ever-changing model, but if
15:51
you're willing to learn...
15:52
I mean hey it's just with anything in
15:54
life you know you're willing to learn to
15:56
be a constant learning you're gonna grow
15:57
and you're gonna be really dope... you're
15:59
gonna be a really dope web developer,
16:01
data analyst and you're gonna be like
16:02
“wow…” you know and you're gonna ingratiate
16:05
yourself and it's gonna be fun

MW
you're right people use people use
16:16
technology all the time, they're
16:17
consuming on technology but they don't
16:19
really know how to create beyond like
16:21
you know taking photos and like doing
16:22
social posts, like everyone does I do
16:24
that. but uh you know but they don't but
16:26
they don't they don't often think about
16:28
could I actually make an app, and these
16:30
days you know it's never been easier you
16:32
know right to make an app. so you know I
16:35
love just the idea of just saying to
16:37
people look you're already spending so
16:39
much time on these on these devices and
16:41
on the internet just shift your paradigm
16:42
shift your paradigm to being more of a
16:44
creator than a consumer right you know
16:46
what I mean
16:46
you don't totally give up the
16:47
consumption piece but you know you start
16:50
to balance that out a little bit more
16:51
and it could pay dividends for you
16:53
economically and and just into it, and
16:55
also self-confidence you know if you
16:57
feel like you know more about this
16:58
environment where the world is gonna go
17:00
right you know I mean yes

JM
yes man and
17:02
and and really the rhone of the
17:06
coronavirus has really accelerated our
17:09
growth model. that because you know we
17:12
were brick-and-mortar, we wasn't even
17:14
thinking about going right to a online

MW
Distributed online model
17:17
right right we

JM
our online model
17:22
was not even gonna launch til the next year okay...
17:24
so what this coronavirus has done is
17:27
taught us to pivot, so you know. okay how
17:30
now we can reach a greater vast amount
17:33
of people because we've built the online
17:35
classroom that they can get online
17:37
instruction and they can be in
17:39
California and watching online
17:41
instruction and that's going on in
17:43
Nashville, so it is really you know it's
17:45
exciting times for me because I okay now
17:48
now we're cooking... yeah okay now we
17:51
really all have to do is spend some time
17:53
really understanding our audience and
17:55
figuring out how to
17:56
target our audience... but you know this is
17:58
the most captive everybody has been, you
18:00
know, you can't really I can't lie and
18:03
say “I'm busy…” No, you know I'm at the house!
18:14
but you know I'm at home right
18:17
you know you can reach me... you're not
18:18
right like... it's the most that is the
18:23
most captive right now like... the people
18:26
that you always wanted to reach you can
18:28
reach because it's captive everybody is
18:30
either on the computer or on their phone
18:32
at home... and this is the time everybody's
18:36
still so figuring out okay hey how do we
18:40
reach out to that person to say “while
18:42
you're chilling, let's get some skills…”
18:43
right so when when everything opens back
18:46
up I'm prepared you know we got to stay
18:49
ready man we cannot wait until disaster
18:52
happens and then trying to figure it out
18:55
and I'm and I'm learning it you know
18:57
it's like you know you learn so much
18:59
through this process of just life and
19:02
business and how you were doing things
19:04
before and how can you really shift your
19:08
new mindset -because it's really a new
19:10
mindset- it's a really hard reset... that's
19:13
what we just is what we're going through
19:15
right now… it's
19:16
not the regular reset, it's like the hard
19:19
reset that belief all your text messages
19:21
your ass it's that reset you know man is
19:26
that a hard reset it says back for the
19:29
manufacturers yeah right now man

MW
so on
19:39
that on that note in there this does
19:42
some some good did some good questions
19:44
in here actually actually I want to
19:45
touch them this one question that we got
19:47
on Facebook live, and then and then I
19:49
want to shift... but uh a question from
19:52
from my man Michael Baker how do you all
19:54
see the work from home model changing
19:56
how much software development will stay
19:58
on shore rather than offshore?
20:00
is that something like that you all have
20:02
been talking about as you've been you
20:04
know thinking about the future of your
20:05
school both both in terms of the fact
20:08
that you're no longer bound
20:09
to Nashville for where your students are
20:11
going to come from but also in terms of
20:12
you you know making sure that those
20:14
students then find employment, find work
20:17
you know our product on the back end of
20:19
your of your classes

JM
yes so that's what
20:23
we're going to spend time on is really
20:26
signing out or the partnerships that
20:28
michael Baker from… that’s my man
20:32
Michael Baker... the topic I think it's
20:34
really just finalize the partnership and
20:36
the relationships has really been
20:38
important for us to build relationships
20:40
with organizations that may be hiring
20:43
after this process and go ahead and
20:45
started that process now so I've been
20:47
talking with Jason... you know I got Jason
20:49
yeah I wish Edison... you know he runs a
20:52
data company like hey Jason I want you
20:54
to take a look at these three or four
20:55
you know people you know tell me what
20:58
you say you know can we work on some
20:59
data sets and projects that you all may
21:01
have going on... you know that's what I
21:03
really are going to be our secret sauce...
21:05
I don't know I can I let a little secret
21:10
Sauce… so what we're looking to
21:14
do is that we're looking to go to
21:16
organizations and see what they are
21:19
working on and really build cohorts
21:24
around what the organization needs okay
21:26
okay so you're getting people that
21:30
they're spending 24 weeks learning your
21:33
system right
21:35
okay
21:36
then they can transition yeah from from
21:40
Learning, knock and transition and really
21:42
work yep so it just eliminates that at
21:46
that time where you have to spend all
21:47
this time training and building them up
21:49
now we've built them up for 24 week so
21:51
what they're gonna be actually doing all
21:53
the job… so that's one of the secret
21:56
sauces that we're gonna be working on
21:58
that's gonna really separate pivot from
22:01
everybody else
MW
that's what's up
22:02
and then Michael just from from my
22:04
perspective what I've what I've seen is
22:06
that a lot of American organizations -and
22:09
I don't know I can I can directly apply
22:11
this to tech workers- but I'm definitely
22:14
seeing them thinking more holistically
22:16
about re-domesticating a lot of what
22:19
they you know they're they're they're
22:20
they're laborer sourcing, they're there
22:23
partnerships like Reda Mesta cating a
22:25
lot of that stuff for a lot of obvious
22:27
reasons I think you know sort of post
22:29
COVID 19 so I think that will be
22:31
interesting and I think organizations
22:32
like pivot tech could provide a nice new
22:35
stand in model for that... you know as
22:37
they're thinking about okay how do we
22:38
get lower cost
22:41
you know labor more integrated directly
22:44
with our systems you know this could be
22:46
sort of a you know a nice new option for
22:48
something like that

JM
it could be a
22:51
great option if they're looking at hire
22:54
locally and you know American labor and
22:57
that's what we really have to get right

MW
22:59
okay okay so so we what we have not done
23:02
yet is we have not yet caught up on what
23:06
has felt like three years but it's
23:08
really just been like three months
23:11
right since since the tornado that hit
23:15
Nashville and across all of the damage
23:20
that it did you know wiped out a very
23:23
very important building on Jefferson
23:24
Street that housed music city cleaners,
23:28
the lab, right your event space... and you
23:34
know that was like that was crazy when
23:36
it happened but it also happened about
23:38
one week before coronavirus really sort
23:40
of settled into the entire united states
23:43
right? so we didn't even really have time
23:45
to adjust

JM
we didn't have no mourning
23:49
period

MW
no no there was no morning it was
23:52
like okay Josh okay tab okay okay we got
23:55
to move on we got move on we got another
23:58
stuff to take care of right... and so you
24:01
know just catching up man I've been I've
24:03
been watching you return to to the
24:06
spirit I'm used to seeing you know what
24:07
I mean which is good which why I've
24:09
reached out and was like “hey man let's
24:11
let's let's plus check-in…” but also you
24:14
know just I've been seeing you do these
24:16
Facebook and Instagram stories about
24:18
what the coronavirus has taught you and
24:20
so I wanted to just give you the floor
24:22
to talk a little bit about how you've
24:24
evolved as a person as an entrepreneur
24:28
you know in the face of some incredible
24:31
incredible events that have happened in
24:33
2020... everyone's talking about incredible
24:35
event
24:36
but not everybody had a tornado destroy
24:38
the building that housed their buildings
24:40
they've been working for this their
24:42
life's work not everybody had that

JM
no
24:45
bro and really it's it's one of those
24:49
things that was like... wasn't it... it was
24:54
like God knew the coronavirus was gonna
24:59
take place and it was like “okay I'm
25:01
going to eliminate something that is
25:05
gonna hurt you when it happens, but it's
25:09
gonna bless you later.”
25:10
it took me a
25:14
while to get to that bro because you
25:16
know when you look at and I'm like man
25:18
look I've spent 12 years pouring my
25:22
heart into a place on Jefferson Street
25:25
that anchors a community that's already
25:28
fragile... you know and that that's my
25:32
heart northern Asheville is my heart...
25:34
I poured energy time resources trying to
25:39
get people together gather them together
25:41
all in this one place, and see that
25:43
gone in an instant was like heartbreaking...
25:47
and also you know eliminating three
25:50
streams of income

MW
yes you know talk
25:53
about that

JM
know let's let's talk about
25:55
that you know it's like eliminating
25:56
three streams of income all in an
25:59
instant, so we're you know you had these
26:01
grandiose ideas and business plans put
26:05
together -not knowing that coronavirus
26:08
was right around the corner- were going
26:09
to eliminate all those plans and
26:13
financial goals and strategies and
26:16
things going to eliminate it anyway... so
26:18
it was like to see that happen there to
26:22
really go from that to Corona has
26:25
been like a challenge like no other... and
26:28
I really have to get out of a space
26:31
because I felt myself like get into that
26:33
dead monkey on my back, where was like “yo
26:35
I'm slipping it's a dangerous place of
26:39
that depression” and really trying to
26:41
figure it out and like man I have a
26:43
whole family and you know and my wife
26:46
did my wife didn't work you know so it's
26:48
all on me you know...
26:50
still having a private school, and I you
26:53
know I built this lifestyle based upon
26:55
revenues you know, without really able to do
26:59
and and so you know... it just really
27:02
brought us back to what really matters...
27:05
and and when I calculated all of the
27:10
things I was doing -in and I had to look
27:14
and said- “did that really matter?” you know
27:16
at the end of the day did that matter
27:19
that you were doing all these different
27:21
things and you know but you know your
27:24
son was being neglected, your household
27:27
was being neglected, your wife was being
27:29
neglected... like all these things really
27:31
brought me back to square one Center and
27:34
say hey now I'm eliminating the past ten
27:39
years because we're going to 2020 is a
27:41
new decade... so it's like
27:44
“how do I shift and give you a whole new
27:48
foundation?” so that's what I'm looked at
27:50
it as this is a brand new foundation so
27:53
now what I built
27:55
what can I build that's going to last me
27:57
for the next ten years we're planning
27:59
then ten-year blocks for a whole new
28:00
decade, and it's like I got a whole
28:02
nother clean slate to say “hey, be
28:05
creative... here's your new here's your new
28:07
canvas, build what you want for the next
28:10
ten years…” what does that look like how
28:13
does that how does that look in the new
28:14
marketplace? when new new concepts new
28:17
what new ideas can you establish in the
28:19
marketplace? so it's really has me like
28:22
spending more inner time rather than
28:26
like being so busy that I really didn't
28:29
have that inner time you know where I
28:31
can really take time and meditate and
28:34
just really create small routines and
28:37
rituals... like I make sure every day I go
28:40
and workout that's that's just a small
28:42
thing but that small thing transition
28:46
translates to everything in my life, so
28:48
if I can be consistent and work out
28:50
every single day then I can be
28:52
consistent in doing what I want to do on
28:54
the business side of be consistent on
28:56
how I'm building came to take because I
28:59
think there's one small thing and just
29:01
conquer it alright I'm going to make
29:03
sure
29:03
everyday I'm disciplined enough so I'm
29:05
gonna wake up three or four miles every
29:07
single day and I didn't have it at first
29:09
because you know hey I gotta get up I
29:11
gotta busy I'm busy right now I really
29:14
make look at all right...
29:15
were you effective? where's your what
29:18
were your impactful? and it's now it's
29:21
really about these next ten years is
29:23
about me being impactful what can I
29:25
spend my time and be impactful because
29:28
you know Magic Johnson said it, he said
29:30
something that really I had to listen to
29:32
the interview again this time but he
29:35
says “it takes the same amount of time to
29:37
make $100 and it of a million dollars…” so
29:42
what are you going to focus your time
29:43
are you gonna keep running around here
29:45
chasing a couple hand here chase a
29:46
couple hundred men are you going to
29:48
narrow in that focus so that you can be
29:51
effective so I'm just really at a point
29:54
of like being effective now… I want to be
29:56
impactful I want you to feel the impact
29:58
and not just be so so stretched so thin
30:01
and it looks good I got all this going
30:04
on no it's good locker room talk, you know...
30:08
and the entrepreneur in me is
30:12
going to want to create that's one thing
30:15
the entrepreneur and I'm going to always
30:17
be willing to go and diversify my
30:21
portfolio for sure... yeah but, the way in
30:25
which I do it is going to be different
30:27
the way that I structure it is going to
30:30
be different and I'm gonna you know I'm
30:33
gonna laser eye focus... you know because a
30:35
lot of times they're some people it's
30:37
cool, you know mean you could talk about
30:39
all the things that I got going on but
30:41
somebody on the outside may say hey he's
30:43
not focused, I can't give him the
30:45
business you know because he has a
30:47
hundred things going... on so I've learned
30:49
I'm like okay yeah I need to announce
30:52
pivot tech but these other things like I
30:55
going on nobody really needs to know
30:57
because because that really is it's
31:01
always it becomes a it comes where ways
31:07
you know people can't digest that... yeah
31:09
so you have to
31:11
make things digestible and say hey he's
31:14
like being the pivot tech and I'm
31:17
feel confident to bringing my health
31:19
care company over the pivot so they can
31:21
staff some of our employees not, Josh got
31:24
fifty days going on he's really not
31:26
focused this is just like be playing
31:28
with pivot… it's really
31:31
just you know just shifting my mindset
31:33
away and the way I do business and the
31:35
way that I'm gonna do business for the
31:37
next ten years

MW
dope that is uh that's
31:42
look me honestly it's just great to hear...
31:45
you know because I was I felt fortunate
31:48
to be around you in those early hours,
31:51
you know right after everything and like
31:54
I knew you were gonna be okay, but you
31:57
know also can't rob you of the grieving
32:00
process right you know what I mean and
32:01
you know I'm just so happy to see you
32:06
now on the other side of perspective... you
32:08
know what I mean like you've you know
32:10
you you hit the breaking point
32:12
you broke down and then you broke
32:13
through you know and now you're like I
32:15
do you know you're a new human being you
32:18
know your renewed human being, with you
32:22
know, it's not like you you've left all
32:23
that in the past you you bring that with
32:25
you but now it serves as lessons to
32:29
carry you forward as opposed like
32:31
something that's holding you back... you
32:32
know what I mean?
32:34
it's just it just makes me happy to see
32:36
you on this side of that experience as
32:39
opposed to you know where I last saw you
32:40
which was

JM
come on man you mean you was
32:43
wispy and that's a big about heaven I
32:45
cost you're part of my family circle
32:47
that's what we call you're part of a
32:49
family circle bro like of close advisers
32:52
that I look to and glean to because you
32:55
know, when it all happened I just really
32:59
had to just bring that perspective and
33:01
it took a while to get that man you know
33:03
it's really really really hurt... you know
33:05
at the end of the day like feelings
33:07
matter and people was like I know they
33:09
expect me to be superhuman they see me
33:12
really happy and good energy and man you
33:16
know that just really brought me to a
33:18
level of like no this is you know what
33:23
next but really it was just like God
33:25
said man I got you... ya know like it's
33:28
like man I already had a plan
33:30
for you I dropped Pivot it in your belly
33:33
so you can really operate because I'm
33:36
gonna eliminate all these distractions
33:38
because I'm a get to where you need to
33:41
be, you know... like it was what it was like
33:44
he had to eliminate it because he knew I
33:46
wasn't gonna do it

MW
33:47
great great but you having too much fun you
33:53
know

JM
I'm like even with creative
33:56
entrepreneurs work I like to create it
33:59
doesn't matter what it is I like to
34:03
create it and have it in the marketplace
34:05
and just really seeing what it it can do,
34:07
and the potential, and it may not make
34:10
money from ever but man it just makes it
34:13
makes me feel good to create and I'm
34:15
never gonna stop creating, but it's going
34:17
to be focused creation... yeah it's going
34:19
to be it's gonna be so tailored in and
34:22
locked in where hey man you're gonna see
34:25
the greatest come out of pivot because
34:29
I'm locked... you know, it is no wavering
34:32
you know it's no oh man I know Josh got
34:35
10 things going on, you know I know many
34:37
conversations happen you know and I'm
34:40
like yo I have to kind of really shift
34:42
the way that I do business, and the way
34:45
that the community sees me as a businessman
34:47
you know, because one thing about me
34:50
I'm gonna get it done and that's that's
34:53
one thing that you can put in stone
34:56
Josh is gonna get it done... he's gonna
34:58
launch he's gonna dope, but you know I
35:01
just want the new Josh is what y'all
35:03
gonna see

MW
so on that note for the new
35:07
Josh y'all need to follow my man he is I
35:09
am mr. Mundy on Instagram on Twitter
35:12
Joshua Mundy on Facebook you just Google
35:15
Joshua Mundy he's gonna come up he's got
35:16
his own website pivot tech pivot
35:18
technology school check that out the the
35:22
guy is just an incredible to watch you
35:25
you it's his energy is infectious and is
35:27
there's a reason why I always like to
35:29
keep him close to me you'll be able to
35:31
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35:56
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35:59
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36:01
appreciate you we'll be back tomorrow
36:02
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36:05
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36:07
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